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The Tour of Idaho FAQ

We make the Tour more decipherable and user friendly - one insensitive smackdown at a time.

Warning - some useful insight may actually be gleaned between the taunts!

Got a question? Go to our reader forum and post it there for a respectful response, visit the route description page for a blow by blow description of the Tour or email Turbo for inclusion in the FAQ below - and gird your loins, pilgrim. .
Borah

Q: Hey - I can't open your gpx files in my ________ program. What gives?  

A: All of our gpx files were created in National Geographic TOPO, ver 4.0. The National Geographic software creates gpx files consisting of a series of waypoints that it connects together to form a route. Unfortunately ".gpx" is far from a standard file format and other proprietary GPS software platforms can't/won't interpret files created by competing vendors. What are you gonna do? There are several freeware programs available on the web that will convert various formats (we like gpsbabel) and we've had good luck with them. The files provided will, however, open in Google Earth, as advertised, without hassle. 
C: That is so uncool - everyone I know uses _______ and if you don't you must be a bunch of yokels. 
A: Whoa, dood - check out the cerebellum on Geekboy! Why yes we are (yokels) and thank you very much for noticing. One thing tho - in Idaho GPS contests have two parts: the part where you blow us away with your superior knowledge of GPS tech followed by the part where we make you take the battery out of your unit and eat it. 
Q: Can I do the Tour (T1) on my _____, _____, or _____ 500+ lb dual sport without messing up the wax job?  
A: How the heck should we know?  It ultimately depends on if you can ride the damned thing, doesn't it? In point of fact the Tour has been attempted on bikes as small as a YZ250F and as large as a DR650S dual sport (though the guy on the DR had some major cujones). We think that the average pilot of a BMW R1200GS will really wish that they were on a Honda XR650R much of the time (especially the first couple of days) - unless they happen to be Johnny Campbell in which case it won't matter in the least bit. There is a variant of the Tour, T2, that is entirely dual sport friendly. 

Have a look at the maps (and the photo below). Notice that the Tour of Idaho goes right to the tops of several impressively tall mountains with contour lines really close together. For most mortals we'd recommend large displacement dirt bikes with lights (something along the lines of an XR650R, KTM530 or WR450F are nearly perfect for the Tour). If in doubt small is better than large. Slap a plate on the back of whatever actual dirt bike you have and you should be good to go. Make sure that whatever you ride has either a large gas tank or a sturdy rack to bolt fuel jugs onto (or invest in comfy boots). We've indicated in the route description the places we think that riders on dual sports or large bikes may have some trouble (about 10 - 20% of the route). If you choose to ignore our warnings about these sections and tackle them on your KLR650 or something equally ill-suited please forget that you know us. It is, in point of fact, possible to ride around these sections - but not without missing out on the essential character of the Tour.

A salient tidbit for those who would thumb their nose at the big wheel in the sky is the TID scorecard - which shows exactly zero complete transits of T1 by dual sport motorcycles - and not for lack of trying.

Massacre Mountain Loop
Q: Is the Tour a camping along the way kind of deal or can I stay in motels?       
A: As long as you can make the recommended daily mileage accomodos are not a problem. If you fail to make your daily nut due to indolence, mechanical failure, getting lost or any number of other calamities you may end up sleeping under your bike with the engine running to keep warm. It's very cold, btw, everywhere along the Tour after dark even in the middle of summer.  We do not recommend carrying camping gear.  
Q: Is the Tour self-supported or can we use a chase vehicle?
A: Not easily. It would be possible for the first couple of days without a lot of miles on the chase vehicle but after that it would be difficult. Consult an Idaho road map. If you do plan on having a chase vehicle shadow your entire journey be sure to factor in 2000+ miles for the round trip to and from Jenkins Hollow.

There seems to be an inverse relationship between the use of a chase vehicle and success on the Tour - with self-supported groups enjoying a much greater success rate.
Q: Do I need a street legal bike? 
A: The short answer is yes. There is a longer, more nuanced answer but the short answer is probably the best. If you live in Idaho you know the rules. If not and your bike is licensed out of state you will be fine.
Q: What should I pack? What do you consider indispensable items? 
A: Not much. Light is way better than heavy. We use Ogio Flight Vests (with 2.0 liter bladders) and very lightweight backpacks. We carry energy bars, a wilderness emergency and first aid kit, a small tool kit, survival equipment, a personal shelter, a beacon, camera gear and that's about it. We mail changes of clothes ahead to the motels we plan on staying in. An emergency beacon is a great idea. A WI-FI capable cell phone is also a good idea as it will allow you to call from motels in areas that have no cell service. Pack the minimum that you think you can get away with then chuck half of what remains. Light is right. If you carry a lot of heavy stuff you will end up needing every bit of it. 
Q: What about tires and tubes?
A: We like the Dunlop D-739 A/T, Dunlop D-606, or Michelin AC-10 or something similar for the rear - anything that is compounded for hard terrain and has stiff sidewalls. The choice of the front tire is not as critical so any medium compound knobby will do just fine - whatever you like. Just make sure that you run knobbies and not dual sport tires (some of the steep climbs encountered during the first few days of the Tour are often so slick that they are a challenge even with aggressive knobbies). Also make sure that your tires are fresh when you hit the trail at Jenkins Hollow or else you'll be riding slicks by the time you get to Wallace (you might also consider taking it easy on the occasional paved roads you'll encounter).

We use heavy-duty tubes (inflated to around 15 psi) and carry, perhaps, one spare for every two bikes (if that). A can of fix-a-flat seems to work fine for the occasional pinch leak. Run heavy duty tubes, stiff sidewall (desert racing) knobbies, check your tire pressures daily and you should be just fine.
Q: How good are your time/distance estimates? Some days are over 300 miles. That seems like a lot. 
A: They are great - for us. But your distance traveled per unit time may vary with skill, inclination or trail conditions (it should be noted that the bulk of the Tour has been done in a single day). If you like to ride at any reasonable clip and don't stop a lot you'll do just fine. If you need to commune with nature around every corner and be photographed beside every pine tree in Idaho then things will take longer - in which case we recommend that you check out Trail Tech and Ricky Stator who make the bodacious headlights you'll need.
C: I did the __________ part of the Tour and I didn't see any of the stuff you guys said to watch out for. It was also way easier than you said. Where are you guys getting your information on trail conditions? I didn't post to complain - it's just that I am way cooler than you guys will ever be. I eat nothing but nuts, berries and elk droppings AND I am faster than even that lame poser Johnny Campbell. I also have a thing about fat motorcycle guys in their forties. Did I mention that I was cool?
A: We think that narcissism is a wonderful form of self-expression but please, no confessionals here. If you are conflicted about your weight cut back on the elk burgers or try a wrap.

Trail conditions along the Tour can change radically within a matter of just a few hours. The Tour of Idaho is in the mountainous western USA and is subject to vicious cold, blistering heat, deluges of biblical proportions, snow/sleet/graupel dumps, extremely high winds and wildfires - sometimes all within the same few hours. We have described various sections of the Tour with respect to the average conditions we've encountered in a decade of riding them. Nonetheless we have seen many sections of TID deteriorate from completely casual to unrideable after a single summer storm. Fortunately the converse is also true. There is continuous maintenance of the trails all along the Tour and if your luck is good you might just hit something we describe as the edge of death right after the maintenance crew has smoothed out all of the wrinkles and buffed it to immaculateness.

As for the rest, well, may we suggest Lasik? 
Q: There seem to be a lot of variations of the Tour. What parts do I have to ride in order for my trip to be considered "legit?"
A: The Tour of Idaho is a series of lines on a map. As far as we are concerned you should just go ride and have fun and not worry about what anyone else thinks about it - especially the likes of us! If, however, you seek our seal of approval the answer is all of it, on your bike, rolling down the road under its own power as opposed to, say, riding on a trailer. We think we have been pretty clear in the route description about the variations that we consider essential to the Tour. Start in Jenkins Hollow and ride 1280 miles to the north end of Upper Priest Lake. Do all the hard stuff on the first day, take the long way on day 2, do the Massacre Mountain Loop on day 3 and Pete King Trail on day 5 (when open). That's the Tour of Idaho (T1). More than minor variations from this route may constitute a wonderful ride but not the Tour of Idaho. 

If you insist on props from us the way to get them is not by blowing smoke up our hineys. Over the last 10 or so years we have ridden every nook and cranny of the Tour many times in all kinds of weather on many different types of motorcycles and are pretty familiar with how it all works. When you claim to have "covered every inch of the Tour" and it turns out that you plumb forgot that you skipped problematic sections and trailered your bike a wee bit here and there then no kudos for you - Mr. Poopie Head.
Q: I've read trip reports of the Tour elsewhere on the web. Are these good sources of information?
It depends on who wrote them. Our friend Mark "BigDog" Sampson at bigdogadventures.com has a very good independent perspective of the Tour (T1). We'd also recommend "The War of Attrition" by Michael "Dread Pendragon" Hinds. Both of these Tour participants provide honest, no ego trip, chronicles of their adventures and misadventures.

Almost everything else that we've read (apologies to anyone who's account we have not read - we don't mean to tar everyone with the same brush!) is somewhere between not so great and so completely misinformed as to be hazardous to your well-being.   
Q: Anything else?
A: Yep - make sure that both you and your bike are capable of taking a good pounding for 1300 miles. The Tour of Idaho is probably the most difficult long ride you have ever attempted. If you are completely whipped at the end of the first day you will have come a long way for a short trip. 

If you can't run a mile on flat ground in less than 8 minutes you are going to have your work cut out for you. Unless you live somewhere in the Western USA well above sea-level you'll need a few days to acclimatize to the rigors of hard work at altitude (9000' the first day). Your knees are going to take a pounding. We recommend fat bars and a steering damper to minimize arm and shoulder pump. Beefy pegs and real boots are essential. Full armor, tinted goggles and a good helmet are a must. Do not embark on the Tour without either a good roost guard or some form of stout, protective body armor (a back protector is a splendid idea). Stock up on ibuprofen because you are going to need plenty of it. Be ready for excessive heat and freezing cold in the same day. Be prepared to get rained on, snowed on and to dodge forest fires. Be prepared to work your fanny off.

Mental preparation is as important as physical fitness. Do not assume that GPS, sat phones and the like are a substitute for wilderness acumen. Study the maps we've provided and familiarize yourself with the route as much as possible. Each year we speak with a fair number of TID riders who got lost, got into trouble (or both) in spite of being in possession of enough high tech wizardry to make a HAL 9000 green with envy. The TID is as much a wilderness endurance event as it is a dirt bike ride. Among the small fraternity who've completed the entire Tour are metal-winning endurance athletes who would readily testify to the high level of mental and physical stamina required to succeed.

Make sure that your bike's brakes, tires, chains and sprockets are fresh (you will completely shag even a fresh hard compound rear tire over the course of the Tour). Also make sure that you are jetted for 5000+. Don't bring a bike that you are unable to either ride or drag over large rocks and logs because there is an excellent chance that you'll be doing just that more than a little. There are a few places along the Tour where you are literally riding along a razor's edge of catastrophe. It's best to have a bike you really trust and can handle with confidence under such circumstances. You might get away with riding a 600lb, poorly suspended motorcycle over a single log or rock step - but are you prepared to do this hundreds of times for 1300 miles in remote mountainous terrain where the consequence of a mishap may be quite high?

In terms of effort, both mental and physical, and commitment, T1 is a lot like a mountaineering expedition. One must be prepared both mentally and physically and have the proper equipment in order to have a reasonable chance of success (and to ward off catastrophe). A fit, experienced, intelligent rider on a suitable motorcycle, traveling light, should have a good chance of successfully completing the entire Tour. There is also an outside chance that a complete rube astride their rusty Honda Trail 90 could roll the entire distance from Jenkins Hollow to Upper Priest Lake if the alignment of the stars was just right - just as Denali is occasionally summited by lucky church groups equipped with WalMart boots and sleeping bags. The odds, however, favor the former more than the latter. Do you want to rely on preparation or winning the lottery?
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