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Hi guys,
Three of us are planning on doing this trip next year & we were wondering if one could continue riding north past Upper Priest Lake & into Canada? We plan on leaving Vancouver & riding to Jordan Valley, OR. From there we want to do T2 west > east to Pocatello, then head up to complete T1. Ideally, we want to ride straight into Canada north of Upper Priest Lake but do not know what's involved in doing this (Google Earth is blurry around this region). Would serious backtracking be involved to find a border crossing?
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6fiddy
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It depends on how you define serious - you'd have to go back to Priest River (if you wanted to stay in Idaho) or west into Washington State. You cannot continue north from the end of the TID even though it's only a few miles to the border because the road is both gated and bulldozed. Since you have to backtrack a good chunk of the way to Priest River for shuttle purposes it's really not that much more work to ride north to Canada. If it were me I'd head back south around the west edge of Priest Lake and head into Washington State.
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Thanks for the info, Martin. Looks like west into Washington state makes the most sense for us.
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6fiddy
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Well good on ya's! Keep in touch and be sure to let us know when you are coming through.
My son and I are planning on scouting some alternatives to the current T2 Thanksgiving weekend and if we come up with anything cool we'll post the information as soon as possible.
Stay warm up there.
m
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Well it looks like the 3 Musketeers have turned into 1, maybe 2 :( Thoughts on doing T2 + T1 alone? I'm a responsible average rider (DR350) & don't think the tour would be above my riding capability. My fear is that I have brutal navigation skills -- I get lost on trails I ride all the time....
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6fiddy wrote:Well it looks like the 3 Musketeers have turned into 1, maybe 2 :( Thoughts on doing T2 + T1 alone? I'm a responsible average rider (DR350) & don't think the tour would be above my riding capability. My fear is that I have brutal navigation skills -- I get lost on trails I ride all the time.... Heya's If you are a competent rider and competent outdoorsperson I would say go for it. I have ridden every inch of both trails by myself and had no untoward difficulty. My only advice would be that while T2 is entirely casual (and entirely fun to ride), T1 is not. Sections of T1 are brutal and inconveniently remote. If you are riding by yourself you'll need above average ability to succeed. I would not recommend much of Day 1 solo, or the Massacre Mountain Loop, or the Pete King Trail unless you were pretty confident in yourself and your bike. Other than that anyone with the stamina to ride 1500 miles in the dirt should be good to go. It's very easy just to follow your GPS for much of both routes without too much trouble. The route description will alert you to places where you need to exercise extra care. Have at it and be sure to keep us up to speed on how your trip prep is going and how it all goes when you are finished. Good luck and salude! m
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Martin, thanks for the encouragement. I don't own a GPS but a local store has a sale on the Garmin 60CSX -- I might pick one up. How would I go about reversing (west to east) the T2 gps file you have posted? Would the Garmin software be able to do that? A single gps file starting from Jordan Valley & ending at Priest Lake (via Pocatello) would be ideal.
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6fiddy
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6fiddy wrote:Martin, thanks for the encouragement. I don't own a GPS but a local store has a sale on the Garmin 60CSX -- I might pick one up. How would I go about reversing (west to east) the T2 gps file you have posted? Would the Garmin software be able to do that? A single gps file starting from Jordan Valley & ending at Priest Lake (via Pocatello) would be ideal. Well you have your work cut out for you there. I've done T1 without a GPS (with a book full of maps the first time) and with many times since and it is definitely easier with than without. I'm a Magellan kinda guy myself, Dan and others are Garmin folks. It's difficult to advise you there. Any good GPS software will reverse a route but once the track is in your unit you should be able to follow it either way without any problem. Once you get your unit someone here will probably have a set of tracks/routes that will work with it. If not you can download the ones we already have posted and convert them to the needed format. m
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martin wrote:6fiddy wrote:Martin, thanks for the encouragement. I don't own a GPS but a local store has a sale on the Garmin 60CSX -- I might pick one up. How would I go about reversing (west to east) the T2 gps file you have posted? Would the Garmin software be able to do that? A single gps file starting from Jordan Valley & ending at Priest Lake (via Pocatello) would be ideal. Well you have your work cut out for you there. I've done T1 without a GPS (with a book full of maps the first time) and with many times since and it is definitely easier with than without. I'm a Magellan kinda guy myself, Dan and others are Garmin folks. It's difficult to advise you there. Any good GPS software will reverse a route but once the track is in your unit you should be able to follow it either way without any problem. Once you get your unit someone here will probably have a set of tracks/routes that will work with it. If not you can download the ones we already have posted and convert them to the needed format. m 6fiddy, I'm creating a hybrid route from Jordan Valley to Coeur D'Alene using the GPX files from T1 and T2 routs. I'm using Gamins Base Camp software to create and manage my routes, and yes you can reverse the routes. I posted a How -To on converting the GPX files to a Garmin format. http://motorcyclejazz.com/forum/yaf_postst98_Idiots-guide-to-converting-GPSGPX-files-to-Garmin-MPS-files.aspxMY ADV
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So I could ride from Coeur D'Alene to Jordan Valley > T2 in reverse to Pocatello > T1 back to Coeur D'Alene, right?
Would I miss much by ending at Coeur D'Alene & not going all the way to Priest Lake?
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6fiddy wrote:So I could ride from Coeur D'Alene to Jordan Valley > T2 in reverse to Pocatello > T1 back to Coeur D'Alene, right?
Would I miss much by ending at Coeur D'Alene & not going all the way to Priest Lake? You'd miss out on both ends. The first day of T1 - the day that goes from Utah to Pocatello contains some of the most spectacular and interesting riding. The final day, contains some of the most scenic - the ride around Priest Lake and into the heart of the Selkirks is one of my favorite parts of the Tour. It's majestic. The people who skip it are really missing out. The only reason we don't do the Wallace to Priest Lake segment every year is because we've done it several times already and it's a significantly longer shuttle from Poky. But it's not to be missed at least once. I were going to spend all of the time, money and effort to do the Tour one time I wouldn't skip any of it. I read trip reports all of the time that say something like "we decided to skip this section because..." and I'm thinking that the "because" doesn't matter. How do you know what you missed if you missed it anyway? Ride the whole thing - you will be glad that you did. My 2 cents m
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